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Pool

People love to he $5 million splash pad. One of the best splash pads in the county.
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Pool

You are right the pool didnt cost $5 million, the entire facility cost $5 million. HHappy for our families
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Comment

The vote of the Miami Springs residents has absolutely no bearing on the annexation decision which will be made by the county. That vote just gave the Miami Springs council the feel of the cities residents so they could decide to go forward with the process. The county will decide and if the business owners in the affected area have any sway with the county commission annexation will be a dead issue.
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Pool

Im hhappy we have a lot of families enjoying the city pool, thats what its all about!n.
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Annexation

I-m fine with annexation but the pool we got is not worth $5 million.
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Pool failed

There was never a question about demand for the pool. That-s was the point. People want to use the pool. People want to swim. People want to compete. People want to play Water Polo. The city failed in producing a truly great pool. They only produced a great Splash pad. #ForeverFail
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Straw Vote

So now he and Souder claim the 2009 vote of the people should not count since it was a straw vote! BS, show us were this election was called a straw vote? Dotson imself voted to have the people vote on annexation in 2009, now he says that doesnt count? Then I gguess the sliover and golf course votes were also straw votes??? This group is always clamoring for the City to let voters vote and now they are trying to quash this vote. HYPOCRITES
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Theo

I love it when these CAVE idiots turn on Theo when is story doesnt fit their agenda!!! Now you now what you are dealing with Theo!
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Donna

Lets try again over p a s s
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Donna

Last post should say over p 
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Donna "High Density" Hernandez

Why does this lady keep scaring people about low income hi-risers in annexation area! She still does not get that there is a charter amendnment limiting residential to 3 stories! Glad she lost as Mayor, she is clueless. AS far as her scare tactic about the city building an overp  from Ludlam to the Annex area, is she for real? You think the FEC is going to allow an overp  over their property? Like I said, total BS she is plain DUM
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Pool

Bottom line is there have been two elections since pool, tot lot, etc were built and people voted for the good guys and not the CAVE people .Period. and to the one posting BS about the parade, its only for this year. next year it goes back to starting at comm center
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Pool

It-s fantastic and great to see how many families are enjoying it. The numbers speak for themselves. Haters are always gonna hate. They want the pool to fail but looks like that-s never going to happen .You lose once again . See you at the parade 😜
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pool

China built
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Pool Manager

The pool manger is doing the best she can with what she-s got. It-s definitely run better than in the past. But like the poster said below, there was a lack of vision for the pool. The pool naysayers said nay to Water Polo. They say nay to swimming.
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Shallow Thinking Naysayer

The post below does not show much insight or reasoning. In fact the poster is the true naysayer on competitive swimming and just having a true size competitive pool. Just because there was not a lot of competitive swimming going on at that particular time doesn-t mean we shouldn-t have had a real pool. We will now do without for generations. Being content with half a s s that is a real naysayer. And competitive swimming aside, a real sized pool offers so much more opportunity with more lanes for lap swimming, more room for rec swimmers, lessons etc. And it would-t cost all that much more in a 5 million dollar project. The ones who continue to defend the lack of a real sized pool are the naysayers. And they are too dense to realize it. Or they are tools of the mayor and inept council. So they lash out at the true progressive thinkers in their intellectually lacking argument.
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Pool

I just hope it-s being managed correctly. The staff, lifeguards from the old pool use to have unsanctioned night parties there. Believe me, I live across the street. The pool staff would wheel in kegs of beer and party al night long. I remember that over weight lifeguard dragging a keg across the pool deck. The rec director would just turn a blind eye at the time. This was in the early 2000-s . So go figure.
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Naysayers

Wrong again naysayers. I don-t recall thousands in competitive swiming on a regular basis. Maybe a handful were our own Miami Springs kids. The majority were from Columbus, Guliver, Randsom, Doral etc. Correct occasionally there were meets on the weekends and you can get confused on the numbers however, I don-t remember seeing any of our own. The water polo and swimmers were being coached by outsiders I don-t even know if they paid to be there.
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Naysayers

Below post is right. Anytime residents try to have a voice or point out errors in city planning they immediately get labeled naysayers. It is an attempt to invalidate the voice of the people when what they are saying does not jibe with the politician-s agenda. Sure there might be a few that are against everything for whatever reason. But most people just want to be a part of the process and be heard not called liars or insulted with mindless names like naysayer.
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Call us what you will

Naysayer is a commonly used term by those pushing a moneymaking scheme. In our city a few connected individuals push the envelope on to see how far they can overdevelop our city, anything that will give them any type of monetary benefit even at the expense of changing our city forever. At the time the recreational center was being proposed many residents came before our city council explaining to them at that time to include the senior center to the plans not one on council listened we were just called naysayer for pointing out the lack of forward vision, with the project as pushed by council. Well they got it done, if it made them money or not is not the point. Then the same thing happened they pushed the pool project everyone that tried to explain the flaws in the design , were simply ignored so they built a 5 million dollar puddle and some are still defending this stupid 5 million dollar mistake.
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Theo

For those saying Theo-s on the city-s side, that-s silly. Some people are against everything the city does. That-s just stupid. Some are issue by issue folks. That-s smart. For example, the $5 million pool is a disaster for competitive swimming. That-s just the plain spoken truth. Whether someone-s making money off it or not, who knows, but it would not surprise me one bit the way that went down. As for annexation, it has it-s good and it-s bad. I can-t stand when the city says it-s all good and nothing bad. They are blind. There are always pros and cons. Net net, annexation is a good thing. Now, I didn-t read Theo-s article, but I can support smart city activities while rejecting stupid ones. That-s what all of us should be doing. That-s the difference between a naysayer and a legitimate concerned individual.
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Pool

And we all know who is getting the cash and the job..... he isn-t fooling anyone!
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New Pool

The new pool is lovely for my small kids, but I do understand the concern that after having a 50 meter pool for over 50 years, many are concerned that the competition swimming and water polo and diving are gone. That is a shame that they could not muster the will to build an appropriate 25 meter pool with an adjacent splash pad. To think that they built it and now everyone is going to be happy about it is absurd.
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Thousands

National Airlines called and said that you were late for work.
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Theo

Theo is independent. He-s not your problem.
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Thousands

Thousands of kids used the old pool for competitive swimming over the years. Your math is wrong. But someone got paid to ignore competition swimming. And he-s cashing in right now.
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Theo

He sold out big league. Once I saw the sentence mentioning the 2009 vote I knew the fix was in. Folks that was a straw vote. Then he said Dotson is FOR annexation? I wonder how much the City paid him for that? He makes it seem like everyone is for it. Very sad reporting.
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Westward Drive

Why was construction on the bike path taking so long? Wouldn-t it have been more courteous starting construction after the parade allowing residents to park and view the parade. Also,next year there should not be a problem. The bike path will no be harmed by parked cars its asphalt for crying out loud. Shame on the parade organizer
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Opposition

That is correct the naysayers have no valid argument. The amount interested in competive swim  are fractions compared to the residents that like the current pool. Sure build an Olympic size pool to accommodate 20 kids, take up 75 percent of the pool and hinder the young ones water space. Time to hang up the speedos. These posters must have had years of chlorine brain damage.
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Opposition

Wow you are a complete idiot. Your parents did a great job in raising you. They must be proud.
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Opposition

Let me see if my math and common sense are still intact.           There are some 15,0000 residents in Miami Springs.          of those maybe 100 may have an interest in competitive swimming                   and we have to spend how many millions more to apeace 100?                     do you think that your kids are really that important? ? ?
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Ftm

Follow the 💰 💰
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Opposition

You cannot shut down the opposition. Can kids play water polo at the new pool? No. That-s a fail. Can kids have swim meets? No. That-s a fail. Sure, you-d love for residents to only hear that it-s a great splash pad for the little kids. But anyone with half a brain knows that kids grow up. And what we have is a great pool for little kids. It-s a lame pool for competition. Especially when we had a 50 meter pool that had plenty of space for everyone to swim. Now we have a pool that is so packed with little kids, nobody can swim. These are just facts. You-re complaints about our legitimate arguments show your contempt for people with opposing points of views. Residents will be stuck with this disaster for decades to come. A complete and utter failure for our children.
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Pool

The pool is just fine you people have nothing else to complain about . You just go against the status quo. You are pathetic little people with zero significance in this world. If you had been at the pool this weekend you would have seen how great it is. The naysayers don-t even go. You have such a jealousy towards the ex mayor it-s pathetic. You complain about the pool, complain about rec center, complain about the bike path., complain about east Drive park, complain about the FAR, complain about the golf course. Complain complain complain. Such a grand fixation towards Garcia. You troll his social media . Let it go move on get a day job.
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Cavalier

It-s a Cavalier Optimist wet dream.
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Nery

Nery stop fighting annexation. It-s okay. In other news, a man escaped the TGK jail in MIAMI SPRINGS.
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Theo

Finally came to his senses. It-s about time. Clearly you have a problem with the city and taking sides so lucky for you nobody-s stopping you from getting the h e l l out of here. I-m wondering who-s continuing with the Marquez rants as we know he-s 6ft under where he belongs.
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Theo dold out

Clearly he is now on city-s side. That is about as soft lightweight pro city story one can erite. I guess city hey finally got to him.
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Annexation

Should be a net positive for the community.
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Annexation

Westward, ho! Miami Springs pursuing annexation again
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Lob

Lob lost his seat in part because of the pool.
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Crazy Lobie

Lob is no longer on council.
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Crazy Lobies

The Lobies are talking through their rear again. These people have issues at all levels.
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Idiots

The politicians are idiots. They were told the pool was too small before it was built. They were told it was too small while it was being built. And now, that it-s built, they-re complaining that it-s nicknamed "el charquito" because it-s too small. They knew before, during, and after that the pool was too small. There were hundreds of online petitions asking for a competitive pool. Did they listen? No. The pool is too small and does not support competitive athletics. Nobody will take away, that it-s a great splash pad for little kids. But that-s all you see at the pool. Little kids. Teens don-t like it because it-s too small and too crowded with, you guessed it, little kids.
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Accountability

Stop it. Your an ogre
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Pool

In your dreams panama red. The charqarito is here to stay!
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Pool

Hope the Pool and Rec gets demolished one day soon and built the RIGHT way. Debt?!? at this point who cares
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Accountability

I guess that my first question is; to who? The second question would be; to what end? Are we speaking of "Political Accountability", "Legal criminal accountability", Moral:, etc, What do you want to accomplish; to have these people thrown in jail, tared and feathered and run out of town; what? This horse died and was buried, and somehow we keep flogging it! Perhaps you didn-t vote for some of these people; however, your neighbors did.
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Accountability

Timeliness helps of course. But accountability should always be striven for no matter the timing.
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nery o

Nery O, get over it already.
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Pool

We got robbed.
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Mayor

There he goes again promoting the people who paid him. Corrupt.
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Accountability

Accountability, like discipline has to be timely. The time to raise Hell, have recall movements, investigations and all of that was at the time these things were being discussed or built. In a representative democracy people have the government that they deserve, just look at Hialeah. Look at your present council and tell me what reasonable expectations you hold of anything even remotely competent and efficient will come from this body.       Sadly the best people don-t run for public office and you are left with these choices.      Perhaps some day you will get a low life Hialeah builder developer that will take charge here as well.
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Grand Cabron

Ok si I made my money in construction now I lince from Hialeah to Miami Springs . You don-t like it move to Davie con todos los gringos
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Accountability

People on here posting messages like "just move on" etc fail to understand accountability. When elected officials spend large amounts of our tax dollars they should be held accountable and criticized as appropriate. The argument against the final pool design is about just that. Accountability. If politicians do not get held accountable for mistakes and failures they will continue to make mistakes and continue to fail. So for all those willing to accept very expensive poor decision making and mediocrity feel free to move on. Some of us will continue to hold politicians feet to the fire while you enable poor government.
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Pool

It-s fantastic! Drive by on a weekend and take a look at how many people are enjoying it as opposed to the old pool. Then again of course you have something to say about every damn thing .
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Done

It-s done and now we get to say it stinks, it-s too small, and it-s not what the community wanted. The splash pad is fine, but it-s an insanely small pool.
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Raulito

We already got a Raul Martinez for mayor...and his name is...Zavier Garcia.
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Trucks

If the best people can do on this forum is complain about lawn trucks then I-d say the city is in pretty good shape as of now!!! Get a life people.
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Move on

The pool is done, the bike path is done; its time to move on people
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Wrong

"My kids are no come mierdas. They not a stupid as you they can go around a lawn truck with no problem. Only problem is your so old and stupid you can-t see around a truck maybe they should take your liscense away viejo come mierda"             Hialeah has moved to Miami Springs with their intellectually bankrupt and their lack of education,          What-s next, Raul Martinez for mayor?
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25 meter pool

Who said 50 meter pool? All we ever wanted was a 25 meter pool to hold swim meets, competition swimming, and water polo. The school still had a water polo team and the city killed it when they closed down the old pool. Furthermore, to justify not building a competition swimming pool because there was no high school swimming at a given point lacks an vision of the future. My goodness, thank God the folks who built the old pool had a vision for the future. They built a pool before there was a high school. They built and Olympic distance, competition pool before we had a significant population. That was vision. These goof balls perish for a lack of vision. We have a great kiddie pool. A great splash pad. A pool kids will outgrow and no longer enjoy.
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Lawn trucks

Funny... I saw the police driving right by the stoped lawn trucks (parked in the middle Of the street) they did nothing just drive right by-so I guess they are allowed to block the road and it will only stop when someone gets hit
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Pool

All I am saying is we got totally ripped off! 5million for this pool is a huge freaking joke! The ex mayor spent that absurd amount on a huge party room
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Pool

What i am saying is that there was no basis that usage would support the need for a 50 meter pool. The city has proven itself incapable of programming planning to the extent that it has turned over control of different facilities to private entities. The high school dropped its teams (swim and water polo) due to the cost involved with renting lanes at our pool. The only competitive swim in town was a private owned team that didn-t pay for years and then paid a pittance in comparison to market rates. The residents were promised that this wouldn-t be the case ever again. So all this talk of a competitive Pool is without merit when using the capabilities of the city as a basis for the expense. At least with the pool there is, year round losses will be minimized. And if a high school team were to restart, for the whole 3 months that the season lasts, there is space for them to practice and host a small dual meet. For now, seems like plenty of people are using the place. And when we get some idea of how to manage our own facilities, maybe then complaints about construction will be valid.
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Wrong

My kids are no come mierdas. They not a stupid as you they can go around a lawn truck with no problem. Only problem is your so old and stupid you can-t see around a truck maybe they should take your liscense away viejo come mierda.
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Wrong

You are recio come mierda. Wait until your kid gets hit by a car going around a lawn truck and trailer blocking the road.         They will hear your big mouth screaming in Tallah ee!
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Imperial Wizard

I-m not the imperial wizard! I-m the grand cabron! Lawn trucks bother no one. If you have a problem call code enforcement or the police. But Don-t worry they won-t do anything the bad hombres of lawn maintenance has already greased everyone with pastelitos.
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Taxes for Pool

Are you saying that because the city didn-t do its due diligence and allowed private teams to take advantage of us we shouldn-t have a competitive size pool. If so, that is pretty backward thinking.
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Taxes for pool

You have forgotten that when we had a 50 mtr pool, we also had a competitive privately owned, team that took us to the cleaners. As for what we could have ina new pool.... we didn-t have it in the old one, so why should we have expected it in a new one? It-s not just the 5 million that was used to build. It-s the operating cost. Sure pools lose money. And no one should expect otherwise. But go through the records and see exactly how much we were bled in years past to support private teams... keeping the pool open year round, open in morning a and on weekends for private practice time. Of course pool records were manipulated to make it look different. And loads of whiteout applied. For me, bottom line is that there were no accurate records to base future projections. And pie in the sky delusions of the city owning and running a swim team to prevent outside businesses from ripping us off again never were shown to be feasible by those clamoring for "competitive swim". Did we need the building? Probably not. Could the main pool have been better (25 yards x25 meters) which would have allowed for water polo and school summer league teams if 6-7 feet depth? Sure. But we can afford this pool. And that-s What matters to me. Especially since no one in competitive pool planning and programming was listened to.
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Taxes for Pool

Open your mind just a little. You seem to be operating on limited insight. A competitive size pool could be used for high school teams with many of the swimmers parents Springs residents. It could also be used for community youth swimming programs and training. More lanes means more availability for swimming laps, that maybe you might even enjoy and benefit from. More opportunity for swimming lessons, exercises etc for all ages. Health and safety. Finally, the extra costs for increasing the pool to competitive size would not have been very much in the overall scheme of things so whatever extra taxes were involved that you are so adamant about avoiding would be minuscule. You sound like an enabler of an incompetent council without much ability for anything more than shallow and selfish thinking.
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Taxes and their use

The last time I received my tax bill, there was a substantial amount that was paid to the Miami Dade County School Board. This is in spite of the fact that I have no children attending public school. If the High School wants to have a swim team, good for them; however, it is not my responsability to provide the high school with a pool. The pool is intended for the use of the TAX PAYING residents not swim teams.
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WTF?

"competitive acoustics"? WTF is that? ? ?
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Aquatics

Aquatics. Silly Siri.
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El Charquito

The official Cuban name for the splash pad is El Charquito. AKA the little puddle. Only stupid or corrupt politicians could come up with a pool that killed competitive acoustics.
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Hey Imperial Wizard

(1) It is unlawful for any person or persons willfully to obstruct the free, convenient, and normal use of any public street, highway, or road by impeding, hindering, stifling, retarding, or restraining traffic or p age thereon, by standing or approaching motor vehicles thereon, or by endangering the safe movement of ... Florida Statute 316.2045 - .
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Carquirito

It-s here to stay yay!
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Pool

If you don-t like the current pool go some where else. Eat it charquirito is here to stay. Cry all you want. You sound like a bunch Donna Hernandezes.
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Parade

It-s retarded it-s not on on Westward Dr. Who decided this?
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I am so sorry

Your a  tard
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EIC

Love it!
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I am soo sorry!

"For crying out loud cut the crap. If you see a lawn truck blocking traffic call the police at that moment and spare us your whining on this board."                  I was not aware that you were the arbiter of importance and the Editor in Chief of this forum               a thousand pardons Imperial Wizard.
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Laugh

I laugh at the guy who says to call the cops when there-s a problem. Sure, that-s okay. I got nor problem with that. The point of the forum is to bring problems to light to a public awareness. To make others and sometimes politicians aware of concerns they would not get from a police report.
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Accomodate

Stupid comment. Most Hialeah swimmers go to Milander. Doral goes to wherever they can, but if that mysterious new pool in Doral ever gets built (doubt it), they will go there. The Miami Springs politicians who built the current pool were absolutely stupid or corrupt or both.
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Blocking traffic

For crying out loud cut the crap. If you see a lawn truck blocking traffic call the police at that moment and spare us your whining on this board.
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Blocking traffic

http:  www.leg.state.fl.us Statutes index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0300-0399 0316 Sections 0316.2045.html           Any questions?
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Parade route

Who is the genius that re routed the parade ?
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Our City

Our City can no longer acomodate facilities for other municipalities and or private schools.
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Doral

Dora = Doral
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Nailed it

We couldn-t get it because the old mayor did not have a child that liked swimming ! Look how he spent over 200k on stafford park (land we don-t even own) wonder why?? Oh that-s right his kid likes soccer. And btw the poster was right he has told people to go to Dora and use their pool to practice ?? Wonder what pool?
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Nailed it

Why oh why couldn-t we get both? Why could we not have a splash pad, slide, and competitive pool? You nailed it. They were very short sighted. Lack of vision of what could have been a truly amazing and great pool for EVERYONE! Small kids, teens, and adults. We only got a great pool for little kids.
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Pool Debacle

There should be no honest disagreement that our politicians screwed up big on not having a competitive sized pool. They could have provided the same kiddy stuff and expanded the real pool to competitive size. It is lost opportunities for generations. Not just for high school swimming, water polo etc but also for any future local youth sport swimming and training. Not enough lanes for swimming laps, lessons etc. Even if they had to spend a little more or scale back the building development to provide the competition size pool would have been worth it. But no. That is what angers so many in this community. Most are not against progress. We just get sick of inadequate and mistake prone progress. For those out there crowing about the great kid pool and being spiteful to those who want competitive. Real shortsighted people. That is why we get the half a s s stuff we do.
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Memory

You have selective memory.
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BS

What a bunch of BS about the pool. The city had an opportunity to SAVE swimming and water polo for generations. They botched it completely. For decades. The mayor-s suggestion is to use the non existent Doral pool. through crazy Doral traffic. No thank you Mr. Mayor.
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Hunting Lodge

Landscapers should NOT block Hunting Lodge in the no p ing lane section (AKA double yellow) area. It-s a no p ing area because it-s a blind p  when a vehicle is blocking. I-ve had to p  there on multiple occ ions and it is very dangerous. By the good graces of low traffic and low speeds, I-ve never had an incident, but it is dangerous. Generally, I have no problem with the lawn guys parking on the street, but I agree with the poster about Hunting Lodge. It-s a public danger.
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Pool

If it-s such a problem tell the High School to build their own pool for the Swim Team and Water Polo Team. If my memory serves right it was Columbus private school utilizing are pool More than our own High School.
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Aquatic

More ridiculous, they had a $5 million budget and blew it on a building.
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Aquatic

The small splash pool is exactly that ... a splash pool. Sure small Holstein like it for the time being but they get bored rapidly so when they want to actually use it for let-s see. A swim team or polo team they too will leave .. ridiculous to make it this small
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Small Pool

Tell that to all the kids who no longer play Water Polo or have swim practice their.
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Silence

We were all at the aquatic center having a great time. Not small at all! Just the right size.
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Beautiful Miami Springs is a quiet residential community located in the heart of Miami-Dade County, Florida. Literally, just minutes away from anything in Miami, it's a slow paced oasis within the larger hustle and bustle of greater Miami.

Miami Springs was founded in 1926 by Glenn Curtiss, also known as the "Father of Naval Aviation." Miami Springs is a middle to upper middle class neighborhood with a mix of blue collar and white collar workers. At the core of Miami Springs is a championship style 18 hole golf course that has hosted hundreds of tournaments and celebrities alike.

Miami Springs has a mix of homes ranging from modest to luxury. Most of the larger, luxury style homes can be found along the beautiful golf course.

Miami Springs has a row of hotels along NW 36 Street, adjacent to Miami International Airport. The proximity to the airport and the 10 - 15 minute distance to the Port of Miami Cruise Ships and South Beach makes Miami Springs a popular hotel destination for tourists from all across the globe.

MiamiSprings.com was created in 1997 by local businessman and Miami Springs resident, Nestor Suarez. Nestor loved the city he grew up in and created the first website dedicated to the Miami Springs and Virginia Gardens area. To this day, Mr. Suarez still operates the website providing local news, events, updates, and photos. The website also has a popular (and sometimes controversial) political forum where anyone can discuss current local issues, politics, ideas. Forum posts and Individual comments posted on MiamiSprings.com do not necessarily represent the opinion of MiamiSprings.com, its owner, or its advertisers. MiamiSprings.com encourages you to post your opinions and interact with the MiamiSprings.com online community.

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