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Police

👮‍♀️ police 👮 Was how many cops are we short on? Do we need to add some part time police to fill the gaps?
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Mustang Sally

Leave her alone. She only wants a quiet neighborhood and safer streets.
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Marquez

Whatever you say Nery-O
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Density

Hey, if you like density, that-s great. You-re entitled to your opinion. I-m not calling you names. I simply disagree with you. For those who don-t like density, I 1000% agree with you. For those claiming that we need density to remove the old theater, that is simply a false choice. You can eliminate the theater and not add residential density by making the whole thing commercial.
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Evil

I-m sorry, but that-s an evil comment. There are plenty of people I don-t like and I wasn-t a fan of Marquez whatsoever, but to be thrilled they are dead. Really? Have you no soul? I-m not saying I-m holier than thou or anything. I was thrilled when Fidel was no longer walking the earth. But that guy was a murdering S.O.B. who killed thousands. Let Marquez R.I.P. He-s not even here anymore nor has anything to do with what-s going on.
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Marquez

Glad that poison no longer walks among us. He was a hateful, spiteful man. Who are you kidding?
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Density

Seems like we got residents that have some pull in the city where the council are actually listening to them and have tweaked ordinances. Wonder what is the connection? and Did they gave donation to Bain or Garcia campaign in the past. veremos
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Density

Election day will be too late. All concerned residents need to contact each council member and demand that they grow a spine and stop this underhanded move to increase density until everyone has a chance to have their say. Do they represent us residents or property owners and developers? The city has capitulated to them but refuse to allow the people to be part of the decision making process that will forever change the make up of Miami Springs.
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Marquez

Let’s get it straight he fought and fought then he was gone. Now we are in the midst of a struggle undeniable we must conserve the energy amid once the fire settles and emerge as one. For one day the Champaign will flow and the heavens will march and he will be proud we stood together.
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Density

I can care less if we have spoiled richy whinny residents here that have been here since the 50s or even 1700 B.C. This does not mean you have the best interest in this city. Majority dont want density and we will show this on election day.
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We Work

They should tear down the building and put a We Work or Building.co type startup office share downtown. That would be far hipper and more congruent with driving business.
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quiet

Truth
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quiet

They want you to STFU. Those in favor of adding density don-t like the residents and voters making logical arguments for preserving our low density community.
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Stupid

It-s sad that some on here have no real sense and understanding of democracy. It-s been said that dissension is the highest form of patriotism. Being able to resist and hold government accountable is the bedrock of our free nation. Nothing says you have to run for office on any level in order to speak out and criticize government. That is what keeps us free. To suggest otherwise is un-American. Sad that some people can-t grasp that basic part of freedom.
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Stupid

The stupid one is you. Please do not compare running for public office in a small town to running for president of the US - the leader of the free world . You’re an idiot. You’re a coward. You’ve probably never lifted a finger to volunteer in your town much less would you subject yourself to serving on council where you have to put up with everyone’s bs. Loser.
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Council

Keep the pressure on the council. Next meeting is in January.
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Stupid

So wait, I can-t complain about the President unless I run for office? I can-t complain about my respresentatives? I can-t express my concern about a governor? I can-t express my disagreements with the county? I can-t express my disagreement with local government unless I run for office? That-s the stupidest of stupid things I-ve ever read. The only time I agree with being quiet is if you don-t vote. But I-ve been voting for decades and that inconvenient first amendment grants me the right to say whatever I want. So come up with a better argument for backing the increase in density that few, if any, want to see in this community.
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Accountability

People don-t have to run for office in order to demand accountability and efficient government. Like any other position in life it is not for everyone. But to say one can-t hold elected officials accountable or point out what one believes is wrong in government unless you run for office is pretty dumb.
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April

Any one would be better then what we have or the loser Garcia !!
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Stupid Statement

All those people yelling about density renting efficiencies. Right.
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Density

All these people screaming about density are the same ones that rent illegal efficiencies in their propertty!!!!
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MERRY CHRISTMAS

Next meeting is in January.
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Comment

Why should the bike company pay a business tax? The city does not even charge a business tax for rentals (homes, condos etc.) Thousands of dollars lost, probable hundreds of thousands with all the rentals in this town.
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Trust

I-m having serious trouble trusting some of the council members.
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Council

Council did raise the average square footage. That-s good. Mitchell stood her ground demanding the even higher square footage. That-s better. Mitchell was strong on demanding the city leave the 2:1 mix ratio as is. Bain held off till the next meeting. I hold judgement on this council until we see the results of the next meeting. Reminder dear Council, this will be an election issue for April.
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Council

surprise about what? that all council will be voting yes on all ordinances changes for the Theater Project?
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Bike Fee

Lime should pay the C.O.M.S. a fee for every bike that operates within city limits. An operational tax to cover city expenses. I don-t understand why I, as a business owner, have to pay taxes to Miami Springs, but Lime gets a free ride. That is not equitable or fair to business owners.
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Hotels

Hotels give campaign contributions. The golf course does not. Follow the money.
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Wow

Why wouldn’t the mayor speak about all the wonderful things the town has to offer why push the hotels?? Hmmm makes you wonder ! We have a great golf course. We have the Curtiss mansion not just hotels where people have been attacked robbed etc etc.
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Dick Wilson

Did you seee Dick Wilson at the meeting. That sly!
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Idiot

Listened to Billy Bain interview onEIOD. They ask him what does the city have to offer people from outside Miami Springs? His answer: Hotels. Really? What about the golf course and the Curtiss Mansion? Come on Billy. You are supposed to be an amb ador for out town and all you tried to do was push for the apartments. You really need to retire.
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Tenths

Tenths
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Electric charger

Less than two tents of one percent of all cars in Florida are electric. I hope the private company paid for it all. And I hope the City is getting some portion in property rental fee.
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Council

Too bad that we have to wait until January for the next meeting.   I hope that this movement doesn-t loose its momentum and the pressure is kept on the city about this travesty.   Stay tuned, there will be several people who sit on those council chairs who are going to finally expose themselves with this issue.   You will be surprised.     Oh; not the City Attorney, he has already been unmasked and totally exposed.
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Disagree

We need to disagree without being disagreeable.
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Madden family

You people are something else. It-s always Ok for your opinion and your voice to be heard but not for anyone else-s who differs from yours. Get a life. Good for Ms. Madden to brave all you vultures and go up there knowing she would be attacked and say her opinion. You are all pathetic.
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Green bikes

They do make the town look trashy. Especially when they fall over in a pile. When did Miami Springs become trashy town?
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Green Bikes

Do they pay rent to park the bikes on city property everywhere?
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Merry Christmas

Merry Christmas everybody. Have a happy new year.
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Next Meeting

The next meeting is in January.
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Understand

What is a lawsuit going to be for if nothing was done illegal? Underhanded yes, in the sense that they didn-t give residents adequate notice and a chance to weigh in. But we should be able to vote on whether we believe the ordinance changes that allow more and smaller units is what we want for our downtown.
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Understand

There CAN NOT be a vote on Theater Property. Maybe for other future project yes. The only way to "try" to stop the theater project is through a Lawsuit.
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Debacles

The city had to grant itself a variance for parking because the new Rec Center did not meet parking code or height limits for that matter. The design for the Rec did not meet our own code. And so another debacle was birthed by inept council people that amounted to another 5 million dollars for a nice couple of basketball courts and some cl  rooms. No lockers so things always being stolen. Outsiders clogging up the place. What else? The work out area is dangerously small and cramped and there is a little "theater" at the top totally out of place. Didn-t let us vote for that either. Now the downtown debacle in the making. The reason they wont let us vote for these things is because they know we will smartly them down.
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Maria Mitchell

Yes she is the best one to sit up there in many years. But like it was said she did vote for the big increase in density and that will shadow her for the rest of her time up there. And beyond. Push to let us vote on this councilwoman!
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Meeting

Monday-s meeting was eye opening.
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Parking Fail

The city should have designed the swale around the pool and the rec center for overflow parking. The design of the rec and the pool wasted so much space that now people park on the swales of neighbors. That-s not right or neighborly.
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Pool Downtown

One of the speakers also said there was a constant problem with parking overflow at the pool as well. 5 million for a too small pool and not enough parking. Now they want to add more density, congestion and parking woes downtown. If they had let us vote on these major project debacles like the pool and Rec they may have had to go back to the drawing board and gave us something worth our big bucks. Now they are going about ruining the heart of our downtown forever.
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Pool

The city has to tell people how popular the pool is because it-s obvious the teens do not like it. One resident couldn-t get in because of the summer camp programs not allowing additional usage. Another resident (a teenager) spoke and talked about how none of her friends find the pool entertaining anymore. I think it hurt the city-s feelings.
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Mitchell

Mitchell asks some of the best questions we-ve seen from council in years. She-s tough. She-s unflinching. She-s caring. I don-t agree on everything. (For example, she did vote for the FAR increase.) She-s the strongest one promoting the city and listening to resident feedback.
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Pedestrian Traffic

They promise new apartments will bring pedestrian traffic. If that’s the case shouldn’t we see a whole lot more pedestrian traffic between Bella Bakery and Roman’s? There are far more apartments in that area. I don’t see a busy pedestrian traffic flow. Come on now.
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CA

Yes, there has to be an investigation. This is to obvious. (Bain too)
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Bella Bakery

Dear City, If Bella Bakery can build with a 2 to 1 mix ratio, why do you need to change it for the G.O.D. District.
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Pool

I-m going off topic, but the pool comment the other day floored me. The lady has her grandchildren signed up for the pool, but could not use it? Are you serious? Why can-t they use it? It was full? Seriously? Full? Oh, that-s what happens when they replace an Olympic sized swimming pool with a splash pad. I can-t make this up. We wasted $5 million on that tiny tots pool. What a mess.
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CA

I don-t think he-s dirty. He-s got a good job. He-s opened a new brewery. The guy is financially on the way up. But your point is well taken. To a casual observer, it felt like he was more concerned about the development instead of on the council-s wishes.
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CA

That City Attorney must be working closely with those developers. He was totally one sided on the issue and trying to convince the elected officials on what to do. He needs to be investigated I’m sure there is a connection with the developers. Also, they have to have plans and information on whether they are rentals or condos. They even said at the meeting that the city planner and attorney are working closely with the developers. Why are we letting these developers change all this? Let them work with that they have and if it can’t be done then tough. What makes them better than the citizens. People we need to wake up! Investigate what we can and find all the connections that I’m sure exists before it’s too late! Attend the meetings! Stand up for your home town!
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Councilwomen

I have more faith with our councilwomen than with our councilmen.
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City Staff

I agree. I think Mitchell is very smart. I feel very comfortable with her even though she voted to increase FAR to 1.7
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City Staff

No he doesn-t know if they would put more units but he knows that they could! And that was all MM was trying to get him to say. More space for residential means more potential for more units. Shouldn-t have taken him so long to get to that. He didn-t have to be hung up on legal terms. Just simply say that yes, more square footage for residential means the possibility of more units. It was evasive and even defensive. MM is pretty smart. He knew she just wanted the point clarified which he could have done much sooner without trying to evade the obvious.
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FAR

The city failed us when they approved the FAR increase to 1.7. Who thought the residents ever wanted this????
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City Staff

I saw what you-re talking about and the optics didn-t look good for him, but...He was frustrated by the term units. The city deals in square footage and ratios. He should have said, mam, I-ll answer your question in square footage. If you eliminate the mix ratio, you can put less commercial and more residential as part of the building. To his credit, it-s true. He doesn-t know if they will put in a bunch of small units are a handful of very large units. And the ordinance is not about just one property. It impacts several blocks. Chris Hide or Held? I-m not sure about the spelling. He understood what MM was trying to say. If you eliminate the Mix Ratio, you can reduce the first floor square footage and increase the second and third floor residential to create more residential real estate space. More residential real estate translates into more allowable units.
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City Staff Evading the Truth

If you go to about minute 27 on the abbreviated video of the council meeting on this site you will see will see and hear how blatantly the City Attorney and others tried to evade MM-s point about potentially more units being allowed. The City manager appeared to be dumb about it. The City Planner finally had to admit it. But old Danny Boy tried to the bitter end to evade and avoid conceding the point that the change being discussed could end up allowing more units. Very obvious. And attorneys wonder why they are so maligned and repulsive to so many. In this case it involves evading the truth which will have a huge effect on our town.
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Where

And the Oscar goes to that dramatic lady who said it took her 15 mins to get to Milam’s from South Dr. Really lady- you need yo do better than that. Especially living in Springs where everyone knows the short cuts so spare me the rhetoric. No one believes you.
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Garcia

Ever since this s.c.u.m has step foot onto our city, its been going down hill. We are losing our city before our eyes. What is it going to take for people to realize what is going on and take action. Is this theater development not enough ???
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FACT

Its amazing how this is a small world. Anyways Get ready to have empty store front because are going to extremely smaller than what there currently and the rent will be 1500 and up. Demolition will guarantee be in 6 Month because the owner say everything is getting approved. People this has been going on for a veryyyyyyyy long time and Espino and Bain are the "main" players here. You dont have to believe. that fine. But this is very dirty.
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Petralanda

He has one more term after this one is over and he will win again.
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Mitchell

Keep blowing smoke up her a s s because there’s no way she would beat Bain if she ran for mayor. I wish she would though that way we could get rid of her once and for all!!
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Legacy

What legacy is he leaving? I-m one of the guys that ruined the pool and increased downtown density?
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Remember

If not mistaken, Jaime can not run again. And either way he does what Garcia tell him to do. Pretty much he is coward that doesnt have a mind of his own
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REMEMBER

Remember this old quote from Jaime: “After having raised my children in such a wonderful community, I want to be able to give others the same opportunity to raise their children in a tranquil and safe environment.” Said Petralanda, adding “Miami Springs is a very special place and I want to help preserve it.” I hope he sticks to his promise of preservation. Adding 50 apartments at the theater plus another 40-50 at the gym is not the kind of preservation we wanted when we voted for you.
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FAR and MIX RATIO

FAR determines how many square feet you can build. Mix ratio divides your square feet in 3 equal parts. 2 parts residential. 1 part commercial. If FAR allows a 30,000 sq ft building, then the 2:1 mix ratio requires 10,000 sq ft commercial and 20,000 sq ft residential. Now let-s eliminate the 2:1 mix. Again, you still have only 30,000 square ft of building. Now you can build shallow store fronts along the sidewalk. For our sake, let-s imagine 100 ft of linear frontage. Now, the developer can build 20- deep store fronts by 100- of linear sidewalk access. That-s 2,000 sq ft. of commercial. That leaves the developer 28,000 sq ft of residential he can still build instead of just 20,000 sq ft. This is why the 2:1 mix ratio is important. It limits the amount of residential the developer can build.
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CA

I agree with you and I also believe the CA should not force the council to speak in legal terms. It-s the other way around. He needs to take the matter, apply the law, and translate it into common terms. he could easily have said, "If the developer decides to build minimum size apartments, yes, the developer can build more units with no mix ratio compared to the 2:1 mix ratio." I don-t want to insinuate motive, but it would have been a lot clearer.
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City Attorney

He did understand. He just didn-t want to admit that while the area could be a variety of different amounts the change would allow for more units if the developer did just what you said, cram as many as possible in. The CA is a smart guy he should have been able to explain the difference quickly. The higher amount allowable was one of the main things people were upset about and he did not want to make that point until he was forced into it.
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City Attorney

I know what you mean. I saw him hem and haw, but it was truly because he was trying to get into the legal matter of square footage instead of units. Legally, someone can decide to build just 2 m ive penthouse type units. He was trying to say that units is not the right description legally. I-m going to defend him on that point. However, we all know the developer is going to cram as many units as possible. So from a practical matter, he should have understood what Maria was saying.
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Unseemly City Doings

The City Attorney muttered and stuttered when Maria Mitchell pinned him down about the increase in apartment units that were possible. Even after the City Manager and City Planner finally admitted it the CA kept trying to evade the truth. There is something very unseemly about city officials working with property owners and developers to come up with the means to add more and smaller apartments in our downtown and the residents are almost totally unaware.
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Miami Springs

If you love Miami Springs and want to protect it from developers, the time to pick up a packet is now.
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Office

Who is going to run for office in 2019?
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City Attorney

Why does the City Attorney seemed biased in favor of the developers instead of neutral? He should just be guiding the city and responding to legal questions and not driving an agenda. IMHO
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mix use ratio

Let-s say I have a 30,000 sq ft lot. With 2:1 ratio, I can build 10,000 sq ft of retail on the first floor. 10,000 sq ft of residential on the 2nd floor. 10,000 sq ft of residential on the 3rd floor. If I eliminate the mix use ratio, I can put 2,000 sq ft of shallow retail on the 1st floor. Now, I can use the 8,000 sq ft I removed for commercial and add it to the 2nd and 3rd floor. For example, I can make the second floor 14,000 sq ft and the 3rd floor 14,000 sq ft. With a minimum apartment size of 900 sq ft, I can easily fit 4 more apartments per floor. It-s still a 30,000 sq ft building, but with the 2:1 mix use ratio it requires 33% of my total square footage to be used for commercial. Without the mix use ratio, the developer can shrink the square footage of the first floor to increase the square footage of the 2nd and 3rd floor. Those are just facts.
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FAKE NEWS

No. You-re spreading fake news. Mix USE 2:1 means that the 2nd and 3rd floor residential must have the same same square footage as the first floor. If the builder wants, they can add more apartments on the 2nd and 3rd floors, but they-d have to add some 2nd floor retail or offices to keep the ratio. If the mix ratio is eliminated, they can have tiny store fronts. Lots of parking and then load up the second and 3rd floor with apartments. The only ones who want to eliminate the mix use ratio are the developers who want to squeeze in more apartments. By developers I mean the developer and individuals paid for the developer to lobby in favor of removing the mix use. You can figure out who-s being influenced to lobby for the removal of the mix use ratio.
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Mix Use

The removal of mix use and replace with first floor commercial and 2nd and 3rd floor residential does not increase the amount of residential units! The total square footage of the building remains the same. The size of the building they can build is the same! The size and sq footage of the building is controlled by the FAR not the mix use ratio If commercial is 10,000 then the upper two floors are each 10,000 sg feet. The only thing that can increase number of units is unit size and the FAR not the mix ratio. Stop spreading misinformation.
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Lol

Take a look at social media !! If she doesn’t want people to call her out she shouldn’t post things people can see ! Thought she would h e learned from her last fiasco. (The c word )
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Unbelievable

Cant believe this city it getting away with this. In all meeting they have been taking about this project and changing the ordinance. Linking them together. This ILLEGAL folks. We have proof in all the Videoss. Listen closely.🤦‍♂️
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Parking Garge

They say the Parking will be covered by the apartments and retail. True, but you will still see this ugly parking garage from the circle which wont be cover. This going to be a disaster
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Pay Attention

That-s exactly what Maria Mitchell was arguing for. Keep the mix use ratio as is. If you need a variance you can apply for one, but leave the ratio as is.
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Mix Use

Scenario 1: Mix use remains at 2:1. That would allow someone who build 10,000 sq ft of retail to add 20,000 sq ft of residential above. Scenario 2: Mix use is eliminated. That would allow the developer to build 10,000 sq ft of retail and more than just 20,000 sq ft of residential. If they have the space, they can put 10,000 sq ft of retail and up to 40,000 sq ft of residential. The 2:1 ratio lowers the number of apartments that can be built in a building. Eliminating the 2:1 ratio increases the amount of space, FAR, square footage, and units that can be built for residential units. Bottom line. If you want less apartments, leave the existing 2:1 ratio. If they want a variance, they can ask for one.
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Apartments

How the heck are they going to fit parking for 100 resident cars and guests? They need 16,200 square feet just in parking stalls. That-s a lot of land.
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Los Tacos

Love the food. Atmosphere is super weird though. Went there 3 times. First time, it was hustling, music was weird. Staff was a bit lost, food was great. 2nd time, friends of the staff were messing with the music, it was kinda dead, food was great again, but the atmosphere was less than desired. And the 3rd time, it was dead. Ate at the bar. no one was there. It felt abandoned. But the food was great.
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Los Tacos

Los tacos in my opinion is too expensive for the market area. Especially with good mexican down the street at Burritoville.
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Mixto

I think it did shut down. Their social media went quiet, too. Shame, they had great food, but it was always empty. I will say they had a menu shift in the middle of the operation and they didn-t have a kids menu to make it friendlier for parents with kids. We may also have too many restaurants for the marketplace. I eat at different places because we like variety. Sometimes we want Cuban food and we hit Sabores. Sometimes we want southern cooking and of course it-s time for Crackers. sometimes we want just regular food you might find at Friday-s. We-ll head to Woodys. Ceviches is our choice for something exotic, but I will say it-s not uber kid friendly. No kids menu. When we want Mexican we go to Burritovile. Unfortunately, I don-t think Los Tacos will make it unless Burritoville closes down due to the downtown development. Then I might go to Los Tacos, but Burritoville is definitely the best. Mixto had a weird fit in the marketplace. Plus, the real estate in that location is weird. The upstairs is almost useless, but you still have to pay for it. Like any business, it-s not one thing. Several factors weigh in. But that location has been horrible for restaurants. Hopefully they open something different at that location. A restaurant (no matter what it is) will likely not do well.
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Council

Did anybody notice how Bain was getting just a bit impatient with Mitchell or was it me see things? I-m glad she picking on whats happening and asking smart questions
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MIXTO closed?

Did mixto close? I drove by it during regular lunch hours, but it was closed. I just thought they were closed that day for whatever reason, but now I-m not so sure.
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Downtown Development

It-s a money grab for more apartments. No benefit to the residents of Miami Springs whatsoever. I-d rather have offices that bring in professionals, business owners, people who bring in revenue. They then spend the money at the local restaurants and shops. This actually has a benefit to the businesses in the form of customers. As for traffic, the city should have solved that 20 years ago.
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April

April cannot come soon enough.
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DONNA

Who-s Donna? I tuned into this discussion because of the 50 apartments that was reported to be built downtown. That-s a disgrace. I don-t care if it-s 1 story or 5 stories. 50 apartments downtown is stupid.
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No Higher Density

Donna makes her share of mistakes but her heart is in the right place. But please. So many people showed up at the meeting and spoke against the changes that are actually happening. Most do not know Donna. So the sheep comment is silly. The town woke up on this mostly because of social media after the city ran it through over the summer and holiday season and they were unhappy. Some had wrong information but just about everyone speaking against it do not want more density and smaller units. And that is exactly what the city is trying to do in our downtown. There are plenty of small units on S Royal Poin apartment row if that is what you want or need. Some on Swallow as well. We do not need or want all those units congesting and becoming low end eventually downtown
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Where

She wasn-t mocking anyone she was pointing out the outlandish remarks that people said like that it takes 15 to get to Milam-s from South Drive for example. We all know that isnt true she is just calling out the bull. If you don-t want to be called stupid don-t say stupid things.
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Donna

Not only has Donna cried wolf too many times, she-s a liar. She posted up a complete lie that council was going to change the zoning to allow 5 or 6 story buildings now and that they were increasing the FAR as well. Where was she anyway? La gatica de Maria Ramo tira la piedra y esconde la mano. She set the fire and ran away to let all the sheep she herded to the chambers get burned. She does not have her heart in the right place, she-s a fake and a phony. She-s not very intelligent either. She should remember that the people did not want her to be their voice and she lost by a good margin in the last election. All the chicken little stuff works against you.
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Where does Garcia-s wife mock people?
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Pool

Well probably pointing out what a poor decision that was too and how they rushed it through and ignored the majority of the residents on that one too
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Pool

Sad how so many people mentioned the pool debacle at Monday’s meeting.
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